Earlier this year, writing for Motherboard, Daniel Stuckey proclaimed Tinder—the geo-location hook up app that matches users together only after both have approved of each other—to be the end of online dating as we know it.He touted its minimalism and straight-to-the-point approach. Profiles lack the basic information typically provided on other dating sites and apps, leaving users to select a match solely on looks. Traditionally, pick-up lines are seen as ineffective and juvenile — and in any other context, they are. Since Tinder has become the de facto standard for mobile hookups, pick-up lines are actually somewhat necessary.

She’s already bought into the idea, so that’s already half the battle won. You can only message those who have “accepted” your profile, which means you can only try your pick-up lines on girls who have already decided to give you a chance.

You’re already “in” with her, so don’t be afraid to go all out. Some canned lines are good enough to stand on their own — and some so clever that it’d be a shame not to use them — but if you can come up with a line that matches the situation, you’ll set yourself apart.

Rather than presenting the other person a single line that they can either accept or reject wholesale, you might fair better if you get them actively engaged with a miniature guessing game and pull a plot twist on them at the end.

People who struggle with what to say when online dating can now download Dating Hacks, which insists you’ll “never send the wrong message that ruins your chance of getting a date ever again.” Basically, it’s an app with ready-made messages for clueless daters, promising “to start and maintain engaging conversations, get the phone number and setup dates.” While most hoped that pickup artist negs would disappear when the television show The Pickup Artist was cancelled in 2008, it’s alive on the app, with a section stocked with subtle put-downs.

The app, which launched on January 16, allows users to choose from over 500 messages with 30 categories, including After Date, Sexting, After Sex, What Are We?